EPISODE 411 · NOVEMBER 8, 2026

Ep.411 Beyond the Perimeter

Derek Condit recalls Bigfoot encounters on Highway 2 and near Mount Baker, a strange white spiral, a silent helicopter and the Baker Unit ghost at Washington State Reformatory.

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Tonight, we’re joined by Derek Condit in Washington State, a U.S. Army veteran and retired correctional officer whose unusual experiences have followed him from the forests of the Pacific Northwest to the grounds of a maximum-security prison. On his way to work one night, Derek watched an enormous figure cross Highway 2 in just three strides. Years later, while hiking near Mount Baker, he describes the forest falling completely silent before a face appeared from behind a cedar tree. What followed left him wondering whether the encounter had involved more than simply being watched, and whether an object left on the trail was intended for him. During overnight patrols at the Washington State Reformatory in Monroe, Derek also witnessed a strange white spiral forming near the prison. Then came three low-flying, unmarked helicopters. He could hear the first and the third, but says the aircraft between them passed overhead in complete silence. Inside the prison, a locked gate and a terrified inmate brought the stories of the Baker Unit ghost much closer to home.

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About this episode

LocationHighway 2 between Gold Bar and Monroe; Mount Baker area (exact trail unspecified); Washington State Reformatory, Monroe — Washington, USA.
Date & TimeHighway 2: 2012, at night. Mount Baker: autumn, about four years later. Prison aerial encounters: around autumn 2012, overnight. Baker Unit incident: date unspecified.
PhenomenaReported Bigfoot sightings; sudden forest silence; possible communication and an object left on a trail; white orb and spiralling smoke-like column; an apparent pause in the surroundings; a silent helicopter between two audible aircraft; the Baker Unit ghost.

Derek Condit

Derek Condit is a U.S. Army veteran, retired Washington correctional officer and author of Skagit Triangle. He spent nearly 16 years working graveyard shifts at the Washington State Reformatory, including six years on outside perimeter patrol. He joins UFO Chronicles Podcast to share the unusual events he witnessed around the prison.

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Skagit Triangle: Where the Valley, the Sea, and the Mountains Meet the Unknown

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