Ep.348 Fire and Water
Published: 24 August 2025
In this episode, we meet Kelly calling from the state of Maryland, sharing her lifetime of extraordinary encounters. From childhood visions of translucent beings with hollow eyes to a glowing football-shaped light in the night sky that seemed to know it was being watched. Along the way came haunted apartments, Ouija boards, and the moment she discovered Communion and realized she wasn’t alone in what she had seen. These are stories of faith, fear, and persistence, woven through decades of strange experiences that blur the line between spirits, aliens, and something far stranger.
Kelly’s Email: kdbarndt@aol.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kelly.d.barndt
Key Experiences Timeline
Early Childhood
Age 4 – Bible school (location unspecified)
A man told her that if she was ever afraid, she could call on Jesus. Later, she tested this during a frightening moment, and it worked, becoming her personal paradigm of faith.
Age 8–9
Age 8 – Grandmother’s death (location not specified)
Her grandmother passed away and was buried on her birthday.Age 9 – Nighttime visitation (home, location unspecified)
Woke up at night to see beings in her room. They were translucent, made of light particles, with large dark hollow eyes. She believed they were communicating about her. One tucked her in and kissed her goodnight. She thought it might have been her grandmother.
When she told her mother, she was told her grandmother had been into the occult (Ouija board, tarot, crystal ball). Her mother was supportive and said they had heard her calling out that night.Age 9 – Ouija board experience (with grandmother’s board)
Began using the Ouija board, received real-seeming answers and spelled words she didn’t know. Felt it was a genuine communication with a spirit realm.
College Years
College – Paranormal tension with atheist boyfriend (location unspecified)
Relationship stressed by differing beliefs. He denied paranormal reality, she prayed for clarity.College (early 20s) – UFO sighting at 2 a.m. (walking home from art studio)
Both she and her boyfriend saw a small football-shaped light in the sky. It seemed aware of being observed, flipped, and disappeared. Both felt it knew they had seen it.College – Ouija board incident at a party (new apartment building)
Found a Ouija board leaning outside a friend’s door. Used it during the party, but it didn’t work. When they tried to return it, the Ouija board vanished inexplicably from the hallway.College – Haunted apartment (shared with others)
Strange events: microwave turning on, lights flickering, voices mimicking them. Others preferred to ignore these experiences.
Graduate School (Age ~24)
Graduate School – Witch Coven (location not specified)
Professor leading a coven invited her to join, saying she had the gift of discerning spirits. Meetings resembled Bible study but with esoteric texts. Paranormal activity increased, and others blamed her.Graduate School – Whitley Strieber “Communion” revelation (bookstore/grocery)
Saw Strieber’s book Communion in a store and recognized the being on the cover as identical to what she had seen at age 9. This gave her vocabulary for “the grays”.
Adult Life
New York City (mid-20s onward, lived there 35 years, 14 moves)
At least 5 apartments were haunted. In each, she would experience paranormal disturbances until calling on Jesus, which stopped them.Baptism (date not specified)
After baptism, she reported that spirits could no longer physically touch her, though she could still sense presences.
2019
2019 – Haunted apartment (location unspecified)
Heard noises linked to people who no longer lived there, possibly deceased. Saw a “Nordic White” being that tried but failed to touch her, reinforcing her belief that baptism created a protective boundary.
Paranormal Hauntings in NYC
Hell’s Kitchen, New York City – Shared apartment with two friends
Intense arguments among residents, unexplained phenomena: sounds of invisible dogs, apparitions of an older woman, angry man, and young man. Later discovered the apartment was listed in the book Haunted New York and also described on a blog.Other NYC Apartments
Recurring patterns of hauntings, arguments, and unexplained activity. Often confirmed later by outside sources (books, blogs, local rumors of violence)
Books mentioned in the episode:
Playing with Fire – Billy Hallowell
Demonic Foes – Dr. James Gallagher
The First Ghosts – Dr. Irving Finkel
The Unseen Realm – Dr. Michael Heiser
Supernatural – Dr. Michael Heiser (lay version of The Unseen Realm)
Book of Martyrs – John Foxe
Below Images: Drawings provided by Kelly of here encounters