Our guests this episode is Kate and Leo from California, growing up in a house that was over 100 years old they had a lot of strange experiences.  But the one that made them both realise that the paranormal was real was their shared experience of the Hat Man. For nearly 40 years, Kate has kept this part of her experience mostly to herself, but a few days ago, she saw the Hat Man again… But now she must know what these experiences are all about and who or what the Hat Man is! and when you hear their story, you’ll understand why they need to know more.